Saprobiont
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- By Carl at 01/27/2012 - 09:12
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Hey, this game looks fantastic, and I can't wait to play it!
I had a thought about how you keep track of your score. Did you perhaps consider making a score track for this game instead of requiring pen and paper? Was the intent to "hide" your score as you play? (I don't think it says this in the rules.) With a score track, nobody has to worry about whether everyone kept score correctly, it would only require one more token per person, and additionally it'd be another opportunity for more of that fantastic artwork!
I'm tempted to make my own... In your playtesting, what was the average high-score for the game?
Thanks!
There is no intention to hide
There is no intention to hide the scores, so a score track would work. Especially good for making everyone feel nervous about the swarm (who tend to score early, and hopefully not later).
I have played a little after the weekend, and I am nervous that a late change we made to the Swarm negatively affected The Shredder. As they have to play to suppress the Swarm, they limit their kills, and I suspect they should get two points per kill, not one. (Needs more testing)
THe wording for the Ampulex power was also perhaps not ideal. They should be able to push other sides to uncontested locations as well, not just into combat (although that is ideal for them).
I'm glad you liked the game, we had a great deal of fun making it.
you can never have too much testing...
As far as the Ampulex power goes, I did get that from the rules.
I'll keep an eye out for the shredder, and see how they fare with the rules as written.
I was happy to see the game on BGG also! I suggested the creation of a "Global Game Jam" game "family" on there, that would make it easier to find games created during the game jam. When it goes live, I'll definitely suggest that Saprobiont gets added to it.
That is probably a much
That is probably a much better way to play the Shredder.
Glad you got such a varied victory range.
We were pretty proud of the balance, in fact we probably spent too much time on it.
When we did our first blind test we realised our balance was less important than the first play experienced, so we stopped working on balance and tried to make the clarity and presentation a lot better.
Awesome Game!
Found your game on Saturday and I have to say you guys have one of the coolest games this year. Can't wait to try it out after I recover from the jam!
A few notes on the game
We managed to playtest this game many, many times during the 48 hours. (We estimate, including partial breakthroughs early on the development, probably over 100). We kept the game short specifically for this purpose. It takes around 20 minutes for new players (not including reading the rules), and we were getting the play down to around 8 minutes at our fastest.
Different ways of playing can produce quite different results, and we often fell into ruts of playing the same way, which coloured our evaluation of the balance. Swapping which side we played regularly helped deal with that fairly well.
The Canker was the hardest to nail down for powers. Originally we had 5 sides, and the Canker and the fifth race occupied a very similar mechanical space (the fifth race gained tokens in defence after placing). In the end we dropped it, and made the Canker "more normal" (originally it started all on the board and grew.)
Once the powers seemed balanced, we had issues with the victory conditions. The map had a big effect on who won. The open map without the barrier favours the Swarm and the Ampulex, while a tighter map favours the Shredder and the Cancer. The single barrier works well, but Max, one of the artists, who drove the graphical tone was never happy with it as a pattern.
The last thing to change mechanically was the victory points for the Swarm. We had them to the point where they could get second, but not win. The current version gives them the victory when they manage to break out and cover a lot of the map.
The game seems to generate a bit of a metagame, where various powers seem overpowered in turn to the players.
The name Saprobiont comes from the name for a species that lives or feeds on dead matter.
The graphic design is based on Art Nouveau, as it was heavily influenced by discoveries in biology. It fits in with the theme of transformation and rebirth.
The flavour text is meant to be reminiscent of either biologists journals, or nature documentaries. Would would an external observer say if he was observing the species of the game.
They are also meant to be a subtle strategy guide to playing the creature, as is the additional name above the species name on the player mat.